Because the 7mm RM is a familiar benchmark, lets establish some basic performance numbers in an 8 pound rifle with 24-inch barrel spitting a representative spire point, boat tail, 175-grain hunting bullet, B.C. The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. Pros, cons of both and reasons why. It made sense for me. For reasons that I can't explain (though perhaps have something to do with me eating paint chips as a kid), I have an obsession with 3k FPS muzzle velocity. One of the most prominent differences between the two is that the 28 Nosler fires a bullet diameter of 7mm or 0.284" while the 300 PRC fires the . Choices have changed since I made the decision to go with a 7 WSM 10-15 years ago. The 7mm PRC in center is the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag and achieves the same muzzle velocities, but does so in a fatter case with no belt. Also note that some guys are reporting pressure issues at speeds other are reporting work with the 28. Almost overnight the seven em em was on the lips of American hunters. Nonetheless, it's nice to have options Having so many options these days is a double edged sword. RL-19, H4350, and IMR 4350 are all good choices. Brass 1 - 12 of 73 Products Sort By Position 220 Swift Premium Brass (50ct) $108.95 6.5mm PRC Bulk Unprepped Brass (100ct) Out of stock $135.49 6.5mm PRC Premium Brass (50ct) Out of stock $118.95 27 Nosler Premium Brass (25ct) I have a 7 LRM in a DTA, I've been pretty happy with it. The 7mm has a longer barrel and is heavier. ADG 338 Remington Ultra Mag Brass. Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. Running a 7mm like others velocities are really easily to get. A major part of that depends on rifling twist. They sharpened the shoulder angle. Nosler told me their bonded bullet is designed to retain 70%, same as the partition. Not to concerned about the barrel life, you cant expect Ferrari performance and get Prius fuel mileage haha theres always a trade off, I think a mild load in a 28 might be the best of both worlds. Genesis 1:1 NRA Benefactor Life, SAF, RMEF, Memberships "Want to stop drunk drivers from killing sober drivers? IMR 4350 was the most accurate powder tested. ELD-Match zeroed for MPBR on a 6-inch target zone. JavaScript is disabled. 28 Nosler offers excellent performance but brass is spendy and availability is hit or miss . But if your wanting the long action anyway, I'd go with the 280ai. The structure of the material reveals the hardness. I have a 6.5 saum that is my go to long range coues rifle and it is my favorite rifle but not my first choice for an elk cartridge. In shorter barrels, performance declines dramatically. This precision does not mean the 7mm PRC is a long range target round only. Hey guys, so Ive kind of decided to give one of these a try in my Desert Tech SRS. 92 grs. Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . Either is good. Thanks, BnG. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm WSM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.860", maximum case length 2.100". It does have a dark side, though. For Connaught we moved to 7mm SAUMs and in preparation of going to that FCWC I got . You must log in or register to reply here. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. When making your choice, don't factor in component or ammo availability. $120.95. The load is easy on brass and accuracy is excellent, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box. And more recoil. This is probably too high for real world hunting, but well use it as a standard here for cartridge-to-cartridge comparison consistency.). I love 7mm, just wish it would modernize a bit. If your just hunting without extended range sessions I'g use this over the 7rem mag. Published Nov 25, 2019 7:53 PM EST. It is going to be strictly a hunting gun on a lighter weight platform. I like off the shelf ammo and its 7 mag, 28 Nosler, 7mm-08 and the 280. I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. ADG 7mm Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Mag. 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Anyone looking for really good dies call Whiddon and have them made. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. The .28 Nosler of 2015 was their solution. It's often put head-to-head with other popular calibers like the 7mm Rem. But if you want to win long range target competitions, the 7 PRC is your best bet. Saw some shiney spots, no bolt lift but did open the pocket a little to the point of a few firings at 3120 fps. $94.95 $79.95. 6.5 PRC or .28 Nosler. Versitile and with the right twist rate can really launch some High BC pills out there. Winchester claims a muzzle velocity (MV) of 3,225 fps with a 140 grain bullet for their 7mm WSM cartridge; the claimed muzzle energy (ME) is 3,233 ft. lbs. Mag. Said barrels will also be throated long enough for seating such bullets above the powder reservoir. It is based on the fat, belt-free 404 Jeffery case, but Nosler likely just started with the 7mm RUM which is itself a modified Jeffery. Ron Spomer The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. High-velocity cartridges are high velocity for a reason. The 180 Berger VLD was my choice for terminal performance. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Just 5 inches of drop at 400 yards and 6.8 inches of wind deflection. Nosler AccuBond Long Range. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. 12 Gauge 1". The shot prior a half grain less powder had minimal pressure signs. Mag., the 264 Win. This is not a rifle you want to weave through dog-hair timber. I did 7remmag. Handloaders can take advantage of all these, but most commercial ammunition features 120-grain to 178-grain bullets. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. A .208 AI would be about the same as the .284 Win loaded right. I was looking at a 7-300 win, 7-300NM, and a few others. 7mm Rem. You are using an out of date browser. https://westtexordnance.com/7mm-300-norma-improved/, https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/28-nosler-195-berger-re33-testing.159270/, Desert Tech SRS A2 Covert FDE w/ conversions, Desert Tech SRS A1 FDE RH 6.5x47L - Parted Out. I went 7SAUM. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM. I have a variety of options on this, as I am planning to do this on a DTA, for which I have both .535 and .585 bolts, and the DTA mags are pretty generous in regard to OAL. Interesting. If you're only going to be shooting 160's, I think the regular 7 Rem Mag would definitely be a more economical choice. Does a great job on Elk or pig. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. Overall cartridge length of the 7mm RUM is 3.6 inches, right there with a .375 H&H Magnum. You are using an out of date browser. Qty: Add to cart. It only makes sense, case with 8gr less capacity out running the bigger case, it's because of pressure, and lots of it. The 7 SAUM is a short-action, magnum cartridges similar to the 7 WSM. I'd opt for the 7RM. The 28 is not going to be but about 25-50 FPS faster and it makes little difference. 7mm RemMag. Was tempted to do a 270 WSM with 170 EOLs. Remington claims that the ballistics of the 7mm SAUM equal those of the popular 7mm Rem. Should be 7.5lbs scoped or so. If youre going to tackle an elk or mule deer with a 180-grain bullet at around 2,900 fps, the 7mm version in that bullet weight will shoot flatter, drift less, and put more energy on target than the .308 version. bullet have what it takes for hunting anything short of dangerous game. And heres a top load for the 175-gr. Som en stor omfattende nettbutikk er hjemsol forpliktet til hjelpe deg med skape et stt liv med vre utskte produkter. I also kicked around the idea of 7max, but can always go that route later. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Trustpilot. The sample Hornady 180-gr. Considering the production by Hornady of 6.5 GAP 4S cases, the next logical step appeared to be ammunition coming off the line in Grand Island, Nebraska. I wouldn't do either in a 24" , I would definitely go 26" at a minimum. Buy Now. $120.95. With RL26 I stuck a case in the chamber @ 3150fps. In older reloading books for the 7 rum is its hauling a$$ compared current data. JavaScript is disabled. The lighter, shorter 7mm bullets are preferred in these short case magnums. The additional reach is tempting, but Id pay the price with a 26-inch, fairly heavy barrel. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Never saw the need for the added horse power of the 7 STW so I sold it and stayed with the 7 mm Rem Mag. rick smith. 8.7 twist 5R and 180 JLKs couldnt consistently make it to 100 past 3Kfps. The 7mm Weatherby has the same recoil as a .300 Winchester Magnum, and many shooters can't come to grips with it. Like all 7mms, they can fire bullets as light as 100-grains and as heavy as 180-grains. Im shooting a 7 stw 1 in 8 twist ( ballistic twin to 28 nosler ) 190's at 3005 fps, and the 195's at 2985 fps both with under .5 moa accuracy. In 1962 the 7mm Rem. Dies, brass etc are way easier to find for the PRC. Both cartridges were designed to work through short action rifles. Heres what a trajectory table looks like for the 180-gr. Yes, the .28 Nosler wins the ballistic competition with the RUM right on its heels. Jan 1, 2018 2,001 4,006 51 Muscle Shoals, Alabama. Trustpilot. But they didnt shorten anything. But then none have put it all together quite like Hornadys new 7mm PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge.) Some of these new cartridges are appealing, I dont think Ill change however. The only advantage I'd see with the SAUM is using a short action. and instead recommends the 30-28 nosler, 300 norma and improved, and 300 PRC stating that each has 75% less throat erosion than the 28 nosler and with essentially identical ballistics. Trustpilot. Mag. The extra heat required to reach hyper speed eats away at barrel throats rather quickly. You obviously reload so that may not be an issue. Thanks. Just $1 per month , The old 7mm Rem. But if you suspect a 26-inch barrel might be a bit unwieldy, waitll you haul around a 28-inch. Mag. You can drive 10 mph and get thousands and thousands more miles out of your tires, but wouldnt you rather drive highway speed? Nosler shortened the RUM case, gave it a 35-degree shoulder, and shortened the neck to .276. With 165gr bullets the 300 has a fair amount of recoil with a 150gr it feels more like a 30/06. The 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge is a long-action centerfire rifle cartridge designed to shoot 180 grain bullets at 2,950 fps. Adding two inches of barrel to the 24 inches of our 7mm Rem. Mine shoots factory 160 class ammo at 1/2 MOA (5 & 10 shot groups) in the mid 2900s with SD in the mid teens. With a 28" I got 2950~2975 with a 195 and 3150 with a 180. Well, i was leaning towards the 28 Nosler, but now I'm seriously considering the 7mm RM. Arbeidstid: 08.00-16.00mandag til fredagVi vil svare deg innen 48-72 timer. Then Remington blew the doors wide open with their new 7mm magnum chambered in their equally new and affordable M700 rifles. Piecing together a rifle build but havent settled on what I want to chamber it in. I agree mud, but where does the 284 shehane fall compared to the above cartridges? You must log in or register to reply here. This friction-free bullet jump allows it to break inertia more easily. Therefore recoil is not a problem with bullets of 140-150grs. The rim of the RUM was already rebated to fit a .534-inch bolt face. You must log in or register to reply here. If you go the Nosler route, look into the freebore for the barrel. . It may not display this or other websites correctly. If you were to blow the taper out to .010" and add-in a 40-degree shoulder, you would only gain 1.9 grains of case capacity. If you reload ,other than initial brass price, the cost is nearly identical. 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