Lebowitz earned a GED and worked several odd jobs before Andy Warhol hired her as a columnist for Interview Magazine in 1972. Im a horrible girlfriend. Fran took on modern manners, aesthetics and culture the way William Buckley takes on liberalism. No, Im just intrigued by them, because, to me, theyre like talking animals. And sometimes I went on at ten oclock in the morning and read to the guy sweeping up from the night before. And now I eat a steak before I write, like a prizefighter. High Times: Tell me about your books before Metropolitan Life? When I was really young I wanted to be a toll taker because I thought they kept the money. Lucy stops sending her salary home, and I did stop sending mine. I would personally just like to vet each person. LEBOWITZ: I dont cook. At the age of. People were pretty angry in general then. The Fran Lebowitz Reader. He was probably grumpy. I know who I like. It decimated not just artists but knowledge. Then I moved to New York and switched to exotic foreign brands. I like Richie Rich comic books. I was not surprised to see this. No ones supposed to be the president. It was like watching children at a birthday party. And its also not a modern idea; dictators are an old-fashioned idea. CLEMENTE: Did you talk with the clients of your cab? At that point one of the boys I was with realized I was feeling better and got really mad at me for insisting on going to the hospital, and he screamed at me, which made me perfectly crazy by the time I got to see the psychiatrist. Bankers. I write with a pen. CLEMENTE: I think in your life youve said no more than yes. [5] She is known for her sardonic social commentary on American life as filtered through her New York City sensibilities and her association with many prominent figures of the . High Times: What was your best subject in school? Thats why visitors was misspelled. They dont know what anything is, so they have to make it up. So I have a state diploma. Theyre acting as if the other people are Abraham Lincoln. The housing problem would be solved completely. High Times Greats: Fran Lebowitz, Americas Funniest Femme Fatale. We think his version of the navy pinstripe would fit right in Fran's rotation. Lebowitz: No. Because you could always get shifts in a restaurant. I drove a taxi. I mean, unless you have an erotic interest in them, what other interest could you have? You can get this book in the Derby Library in Derby, Connecticut, where my grandmother lives.. She needed something bigger to disapprove of, and so her column became I Cover the Waterfront, and her beat became the entire universe of questionable taste. CLEMENTE: So everything that you write is written by hand? I still cant type. But to this day I have never seen a worse movie. Book 7. China is not a great idea: capitalism and a dictator. Some years ago, Lebowitz sold a proposal of a novel entitled "Exterior Signs of Wealth," a reference to a French conspicuous-consumption tax figured on the basis of display of wealth. I wanted consciousness-restricting drugs; thats why I used to like liquor. The writer and raconteur embodied the hip, downtown Manhattan of the 70s. Tolerance is really a better thing than understanding. Fran Lebowitz photographed in Chelsea, New York, January 2021. Im only afraid when I write. Full-time Im watching daytime TV., The following interview took place one afternoon in an apartment overlooking the East River. New Yorkers, weve seen Donald Trump for, like, 30 years; we know who he is. High Times: Did you ever get any bad reactions from your bad movie reviews? And I always start writing very late at night. Rare Vintage Andy Warhol's INTERVIEW Magazine, September 1981, featuringCover: FRAN LEBOWITZ w/ feature interview by JOHN WATERS (HYSTERICAL! I also cleaned peoples houses, specializing in Venetian blinds. Lebowitz maintains that she wrote the columns with the intention of building a distinct collection of essays. It could be clean and less dangerous, and not horrible, not under a tidal wave of tourists. Then I try to bargain with them to wait until I get to the absolute edge of the deadline. And then I would go to the Factory and turn it in. But what I cant be is monogamous. Why did your family send you to America? The effect of AIDS was like a war in a minute country. High Times: Do you remember the first funny thing you ever said? Its too expensive. High Times: What was the style? There is only nervousness or death. [Clemente laughs] I mean, the great thing about New Jersey is that its close to New York. So Scully put on something called Village Varieties, and he hired all these teenaged artists-to-be, and it opened at ten in the morning and closed at six. I like lots of writers, but now I cant think of them. Im not a nervous person. Fran Lebowitz. . by . Well, perhaps, but I never really felt I belonged even in Antigua, even when I was little. LEBOWITZ: No. Fran Lebowitz is 69 years old October 27. I have a great collection of A.I.P. I was really very proud of that. . At that time colleges had these hotlines, and you could call up and say, My friend just ate 14 pounds of acid, and some graduate student would drive over in his little Chevy and rescue you. Fran Lebowitz: I cover the waterfront. By Susan Devaney. Needless to say, I'm a big fan and I'm telling everyone I know to watch it right away. Because if people dont hold grudges, it means they just dont care what people do. And then all this junk in the theater, we would no longer need the kind of stuff that tourists like. I like Mel Brooks, especially the 2,000-year-old-man records with Carl Reiner. Obviously, I was opposed to this, and I still am. Because someone once told me that horses legs are actually like fingers and that their hooves are actually fingernails. But, I mean, no one talked about money. EW cover star Bowen Yang stopped by Late Night With Seth Meyers . There are certain relationships I think Im great at: Im the worlds greatest daughter. Lebowitz: I have to say I have only written back to important people, people in the publishing business. Now, even if you have money, you can have a horrible apartment. But, of course, Ive always been old at heart. Homesicknessthis kind of interrupted loveis a big element in your work. In time, she put herself on another path. High Times: Why did you smoke an ounce of marijuana in one day? And in order to do that, you have to change it so they like it. The Fran Lebowitz Reader. First of all, there were a zillion bad jobs. A sense of, Im all alone in the world, and I have integrity. 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Then, in 1972, she began writing for Andy Warhols Interview. Its the thing that Im most criticized for. - 48-page book (text in German) covering the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, Andy Warhol, the Velvet Underground in film and a discography, with many b&w and colour photos. 15.19. But when I say no kitchen, I mean no sink. And as soon as we finished, Marty goes, "Let's make another one." I often think of the time before my brothers were bornand this might sound very childish, but I dont careas this paradise of my mother and me always being together. One of the movies was The Thing with Two Heads, starring Ray Milland and Rosie Grier. Monday June 7 2021. She began a similar column (although PG rated) in Mademoiselle. By Kate Mossman Enough time has passed, Fran Lebowitz thinks, to admit she went to a birthday party on 9/11. Everyone was paid in cash. I watched 400 Bayer aspirin commercials. The psychiatrist also had shoulder-length hair and Levis under his white coat, and I spent ten minutes arguing with him over whether Id taken acid or smoked pot. My parents did. Lebowitz was born in 1950 in Morristown, New Jersey, the daughter of furniture store proprietors. Stay home! Plus they are paid by the minute. Children would get up to watch other children playing marbles and Ping-Pong and stuff like that. Fifty years later, she's still there, and the author, public speaker and humorist has a lifetime's . Im a horrible girlfriend. I have about ten thousand. I Cover the Waterfront is a 1933 American Pre-Code romantic drama film directed by James Cruze and starring Ben Lyon, Claudette Colbert, Ernest Torrence, and Hobart Cavanaugh.. Based on the book, by Max Miller, a reporter for the San Diego Sun, the film is about a reporter who investigates a waterfront smuggling operation, and becomes romantically involved with the daughter of the man he is . Theres a huge gap in what people know, and theres no context for it anymore. This is another thing most people don't know about Toni: though she was incredibly hardworking, she was physically incredibly lazy. Like there is an American family where someones supposed to be president. It was unavoidable. Fran Lebowitz is a world treasure. There are some great writers who are great talkers, but there are more great writers who are not great talkers. CLEMENTE: [laughs] Lets talk about your twenty thousand books. I Married Joan, I Love Lucy, I loved all those situation comedies. I know this sounds insane, but I just hate it. It went on at five-thirty or six in the morning. If I had to, I would rather have dinner with James Thurber, than, say James Joyce. Bloomberg was always bragging how many hotels were being builtI remember seeing him on the news, saying, And this is the nine millionth hotel in Queens. Queens! All Rights Reserved. I like Dorothy Parker. Did Lucy come out of a feeling that you needed to put your arrival to America in its place somehowto examine it, or to leave it behind? I also did some subcontract work for porn writers. And Orson Welles agrees Behind him comes Fran Lebowitz, flustered from whatever is going on in the street. By Meredith Blake Staff Writer. Then I went to a prep school that had a paper called the Wilson Wyndowe. Id call it Hello, This is Fran.. Or I would call people on the telephone and have their responses broadcast. I said to my friends, 'He's going to make you long for de Blasio, [and] he was terrible,'" the author . Your friends who dont write will not stay on the phone with you, because they have other real things they want to do. Another time I saw a real pretty girl standing in front of the mirror with a little tiny cigarette butt hanging out of her mouth, teasing her hair. What are they going to possibly say thats of interest? LEBOWITZ: Yes, the night before. In an essay specially commissioned for the podcast, Aisha Sabatini Sloan describes rambling around Paris with her father, Lester Sloan, a longtime staff photographer for Newsweek, and a glamorous woman who befriends them. They had very good writers, but they were these old, stout white men. Lebowitz discoursed without pause for two hours, chain-smoking all the while. Most families are a bunch of unattractive dopes. Why was your first apartment so horrible, apart from the roaches? It was kind of adolescent-petulantsulking, rebellious. I answered Steve Pauls telephone and was a general schlepper and errand girl for him, and I drove for him. Because I could not possibly be in a relationship now for more than six days. High Times: What jobs have you had besides writing? One of my all-time favorite funny people was Jack Douglas. 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The only shows I remember when I was a little kid are Miss Francess Ding Dong School, which I watched because everyone made fun of me because my name was Frances. The 70-year-old . For some reason, I decided to cut off my hair and bleach it blond. I saw the super once, just when I moved in, and I pointed out to him there was no ceiling in the bathroom. They thought I made them up. Fran Lebowitz Toni Morrison was one of her best friends for almost 40 years, up to Morrison's death in 2019. One of them was my columns. CLEMENTE: If you were going to run for office in New York, what would be your program, and what kind of qualifications would you declare you have? Lebowitz: The Village Vanguard. I use them frequently. Aside from the collected Talk Stories (2001), her nonfiction works include A Small Place (1988), a reckoning with the colonial legacy on Antigua; My Brother (1997), a memoir of the tragedy of AIDS in her family; and two books on gardening, My Garden (Book) (1999) and Among Flowers: A Walk in the Himalaya (2005). So theyre in alphabetical order, within each section. I had never really read any poetry, so it was a completely invented style. Okay? Every single one. He was stuck, and he asked me to come help. was he fascinating? Things that New Yorkers need. Once I got the contract for Metropolitan Life, I started writing longer things, because the editor said, You cant write these little, tiny things. I have the exact opposite problem of every writer Ive ever met: Every writer Ive ever met writes things that are too long, and they have to edit them down. But this was the 60s, and there were all of these Harvard medical students there learning to be doctors, so all the doctors in the hospital had hair down to their shoulders and granny glasses. I dont need anything so snappy. I always was.FRAN LEBOWITZ. Id like to be admissions director of New York. I Cover The Waterfront. They also deserve him as candidate, all these so-called mainstream RepublicansI dont know what thats supposed to mean. I like Ebony too, but its no Sepia. Her voice is as musical as ever, high-pitched, the Anglo-Caribbean lilt beguiling. But in modern America - where, despite ostensible separation of church and state, the only thing that trumps the cross in terms of influence is the dollar sign - its possibly even worse. I might have gone to the University of the West Indies. But because I was young, I had this long hair, and people used to try to tip me with joints. LEBOWITZ: It may just be the offers Ive had, but generally, I think theres just more to say no to. Wasnt London still a capital of empire in the mid-60s, the cultural center of the Commonwealth? - 48-page book (text in German) covering the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, Andy Warhol, the Velvet Underground in film and a discography, with many b&w and colour photos. CLEMENTE: What aspect of New York do you think has really fundamentally changed? At the foot of his driveway in California, Jack Douglas had a sign that said Have you called these people? I also thought Oscar Levant was hilarious. Because its everyones dream: Someday Im going to go to New York and go to Queens. Every place theres a hotel, theres one less apartment building. CLEMENTE: Youre a New Yorker, but you were raised in New Jersey, no? But you could live in New York. But letting people get on and off the 6 train without stabbing each other, thats good. Her father, Harold Lebowitz, owned a furniture store and upholstery workshop. I would have gotten a scholarship. It was 87. High Times: What was the first thing you wanted to be when you grew up? Since we are on the pages of Interview magazine, should we go back to your beginnings at Interview? Children played marbles on it. After the latters death, the former mysteriously disappeared. America is a great idea, so thats why its a great country. Saying no is a little different. And he would weigh them. CLEMENTE: Did you take drugs before you were 19? Glenn OBriens interview with the iconic Fran Lebowitz from the August, 1978 issue of High Times magazine. And its not just the Bush family, all families designate each child as having some particular trait. And you didnt have to think about money every second. )Feature about Roy M. Cohn with full page photo by ROBERT MAPPLETHORPEGallery and fashion adsFran Lebowitz ("I Cover the Waterfront" column)music reviews, party pics.Funny classifieds.COVER IS torn (upper 5. But then I found out it was fraud or something and I could go to jail, so I sent the money back and wrote to the people who sent it to me. I dont know why it played in Morristown, New Jersey. Not so much to put anything in its place as to give an account of what had happened to me. She has two children from her marriage to the composer Allen Shawn, the son of the former New Yorker editor William Shawn, and in the living room she displays on a tableproudly, apologeticallyproductions from the arts-and-crafts camps and classes that her son and daughter attended over the years. Once a girl was sitting on the window ledge smoking a cigarette and the matron walked in and the girl jumped out the window. I now dread the getting-it-typed part as much as I dread the writing part. As a Democrat, Id quite like him to be the candidate. She was an outsider in Antigua, and she looked different. Talking is not writing. Lebowitz: I was a behavior problem as far as talking. Im sorry, were full up. 246, Rachel Cusk and Sheila Heti discuss how writing her first novel helped Cusk discover her shape or identity or essence. Next, Allan Gurganuss reading of his story It Had Wings, about an arthritic woman who finds a fallen angel in her backyard, is interspersed with a version of the story rendered as a one-woman opera by the composer Bruce Saylor. Id read five or six each time I went on. Lebowitz: I guess after about six months I started getting caught constantly. Im not afraid to be on TV. The novel is reputedly about rich people who want to be artists, and artists who want to be rich people. I cant remember the last funny thing I ever said. More information High Times: When you were writing The Best of the Worst what was the best bad movie you ever saw? Famously known to have sidestepped buying into browsing the Internet or even owning a computer, the iconic humorist doesn't - nor will she ever . She was part Carib Indian, and they used to call her the Red Woman. Her early fiction, much of which also appeared in that magazine, was collected in At the Bottom of the River (1983), a book that, like her Talk stories, announced her themes, her style, the uncanny purity of her prose. Okay? The other day I read that last year 58 million tourists came to New York where a puny eight million people are trying to live. Im speaking to you from a priceless, one-of-a-kind chair. You have to say fuck, you have to have these kinds of sex. It was written in the nineteenth century by, I think, a seven- or eight-year-old child who was the daughter of someone very rich who had this book printed. LEBOWITZ: I drank my lifetime supply of alcohol and I took my lifetime supply of drugs between the ages of 15 and 19. One of my resolutions is that I am going to start answering my mail. Oh, now I remember my favorite TV show from my childhood. Why dont you just put two of them in storage? Kincaid divides her time between Cambridge, Massachusetts, where she is a professor of African American studies at Harvard University, and Bennington, Vermont, where her large brown clapboard house with yellow window trim is shielded by trees. I was pulled out of school to take care of my youngest brother while my mother went to work, and when she realized I hadnt been looking after him properly, that I had been reading instead, she gathered all the books I had stolen from the library over the years and burned them. Why dont you just put some of your books in storage? And I always say the same thing: What if I told you I had four children? One is that deers are rats. Im simply not a fan of navet. The last one took me 11 hours to type. Because it doesnt agitate against human nature. Fran began her pro writing career at 20. Jamaica Kincaid is a generous host. Bei/Shutterstock. You're only as good as your last haircut. 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